Frederick Wiseman's new film, At Berkeley, will be showing at this year's London Film Festival, in the documentary competition. It marks a welcome return of his work to these shores. Wiseman is one the great documentary film-makers; indeed, I put him at the top of a Top Five list which I did for the Daily Telegraph in 2001 or 2002. I originally wrote this interview, in short form, for them in 2000; the longer version which follows was done for Headpress magazine, and I've altered that only slightly now. The hook then was Wiseman's appearance at the Sheffield Documentary Film Festival, to give a masterclass around the debut of his film Belfast, Maine, for which I retain a great deal of admiration. I offer the interview now, because, just as I found Belfast a sort of companion piece to his earlier film Aspen, At Berkeley seems like another film which gets at the heart of America through its education system, as with the two High School films, and what that says about their communities.
FREDERICK WISEMAN: FANFARE FOR THE COMMON MAN
Thirty-three years ago,
when Frederick Wiseman started making the documentary films which
shaped our understanding of cinema verite, no one imagined
we’d be living in world where fly-on-the-wall filming would engulf
us from any and every screen we chose. Reality television,
everything from police car chases to the pseudo-reality of Big
Brother, captivates viewers on both sides of the Atlantic. Does
Wiseman see these programmes as his legacy?
“Actually, I’ve
never seen them at all,” he says. “I guess that’s a comment
right there. I’m too busy working. But I would hope that I’m
in no way responsible. I think these programmes arise simply from
the advances in lightweight equipment. The new technology demands to
be used for new purposes."
I spoke with
Wiseman twice. First from Paris, where he was directing a play at
the Comedie Francaise, and then at the Sheffield Documentary Film
Festival, where he presented a masterclass being interviewed by the
Guardian’s Derek Malcom. This was followed by a retrospective of
his films at London’s National Film Theatre. Such a show was long
overdue, because for more than thirty years no one has shone as
consistently sharp a light on American institutions as Wiseman.
After 31 films, he has become something of an American institution
himself.
His first film,
TITICUT FOLLIES (1967), set at Bridgewater State Prison for the
Criminally Insane, was banned for 24 years in Wiseman’s home state
of Massachusetts. “Actually, it put me in a good position,” he
says, “because lots of people had heard good things about the film,
but for a long time no one had actually seen it!”
Educated at
Williams College and Yale Law School, Wiseman says his legal
background is a 'bit of a gloss. I never went to class, I read
novels for three years. I’d been a clerk/typist in the Judge
Advocates office when I was in the service.' He was teaching a
course in legal medicine at Boston University Law School, and began
taking his students on field trips, from which grew the notion to film
at Bridgewater.
TITICUT FOLLIES,
so-called for the variety show in which inmates perform for the
staff, and with which Wiseman bookends the film, breaks down our
definitions of sane and insane. I was tempted to couple it with Peter Weiss' play MARAT/SADE, particularly when the prison doctor, who chain-smokes
throughout, asks patients, in an almost-comic accent, about their
sexual preferences. You check to see what he’s doing with his
hands. When an inmate complains about the doctor to the board, they
decide the inmate is “falling apart”.
“The film was
originally banned because an inmate was shown naked,” Wiseman
explains, “and then because they claimed I’d given the
superintendent and the attorney general control of the film. I never
had, but they claimed it was an oral contract. Eventually the State
Supreme Court stopped them from destroying the film, but until 1991,
when another court overturned the decision, it could only be shown to
scholarly film groups. “The banning, of
course, was for political reasons. It embarrassed them, because they
got the point I was making.”
Today Wiseman’s
backed by America’s Public Broadcasting System, which allows him to
deliver films for network broadcast at whatever length he chooses.
Yet in Paris he directed a theatrical monologue based on a chapter of
a Russian novel, “Life and Fate”, by Vasili Grossman. It takes
the form of a Russian woman doctor who is Jewish, and about to be
executed by the Germans, writing a letter to her son.
“I made a film
about the Comedie Francaise, which they liked, so they invited me to
direct a play,” Wiseman says. “I’d done that play once before,
at the American Rep Theatre, because the subject fascinated me. I
learned a lot from my mistakes and thought I could do it better this
time.”
It reflects his
attitude towards his films, which often seem to veer back towards the
same subjects. “All my work is about learning something,” he
says. “The subjects interest me, but I don’t know much before I
start, and I try to approach them without preconceptions.”
Directing a monologue also seems appropriate, because the essence of
his documentary technique has been letting people talk. For COMEDIE
FRANCAISE Wiseman shot 126 hours of footage, and spent a year editing
it down to a three hour forty minute film. Like all his films, it
had no narration, captions, or music. One American reviewer
complained viewers “had to do way too much of the work”.
“Well, that’s
show-biz,” Wiseman laughs. “I try to provide the audience with
information obliquely, through the structure, so they can draw their
own conclusions.
You can fall into the Hollywood trap, dilute your
material to reach the lowest common denominator, but I’d rather not
reach an audience at all than reach them by treating them like
morons.”
In his 1991 film
ASPEN, for example, Wiseman lingers on scenic views of the Colorado
resort town, letting the viewer grow familiar with its natural
beauty. As scenes build up, you sense the dichotomy between those
who live and work in Aspen and those who come there to play. The
editing makes these points subtly, but relentlessly, and you feel a
sympathy building for the town's natives. The rich are simply set against
them, not with animosity, but with an eye toward spotting the
differences.The key to it all is Wiseman’s own sensibility, showing great compassion, but intensely aware of pretence and hypocrisy. It’s
very much a “New Deal” liberalism, tempered with American
idealism. Many audiences might disagree with the points he tries to
make, but far more seem, in the same way as the subjects he films, to
miss the point entirely.
“I try not to
approach with ideological blinders,” he says. “When I made COPS,
right after the 1968 Chicago riots, the cliché was all cops were
pigs. After 20 seconds in a cruiser, I realised piggery wasn’t
restricted to the police. So we show see what people do to each
other, why they need the police. Which isn’t to say the police
never acted like pigs.”
Wiseman’s camera
becomes amazingly unobtrusive; people forget its presence and behave
naturally. “I work with a cameraman, and do sound myself. If I
have a question, I won’t ask it,” he says. “I look for other
situations that will answer it for me. Sometimes people do play to
the camera, but if I think they are, I won’t include those scenes.
“The gym scene
in TITTICUT FOLLIES, which many people find disturbing, actually
happened three times, and I filmed it the third time,” he says.
“The first two times I was filming other stuff, and the worst
thing you can do is stop and start within a sequence. In 34 years,
I’ve only exercised self-censorship once.
In HOSPITAL, I cut out
footage of a guy who’d touched a third rail—but from the point of
view of the film I now regret it.
“I’m not
suggesting it’s a style everyone has to work in,” he says. I ask
if a film like Erroll Morris’ MR DEATH, which uses many feature
film techniques, gets the same result. “Yes, he let
Fred Leuchter talk and lots of audiences just didn’t get it,” he
says. I mention Morris remarked MR DEATH “would be the first film
about The Holocaust not to win an Oscar” and Wiseman laughs. “The
changes in the process of choosing documentary Oscars were long
overdue,” he explains. “They’ve opened the doors to a wider
range of films, but I have very little experience with the situation,
because my own films can’t seem to get qualified for
consideration.” (Oscar nomination is not open to films shown first
on television, and Wiseman's are made first for America's Public Broadcasting System.)
It’s hard to
believe the regularity with which Wiseman’s subjects hoist
themselves on their own petards. “Never underestimate the power of
vanity,” he laughs, “and I don’t mean that cruelly. All of us
like what we’re doing, and we’d like to share our experiences
People running institutions are usually trying to do the best job
they can.
“Their awareness of
the camera lasts about five seconds,” he says. “Very rarely do
people act for the camera, and very rarely do they object to being
shot.”
The rush to share
experience defines the avalanche of so-called ‘reality television’.
Programmes like Big Brother purport to show ordinary people; but
cast all young and attractive exhibitionists, camera-wise as they
play-act game-show challenges and soap- opera scenes. Wiseman’s
camera shows something far more sympathetic; it’s the difference
between watching rats being trained in a maze and watching lions in
their own environment. And society’s institutions, the environment
in which people live, has always been his theme.
During the
masterclass, a clip was shown from WELFARE (1975), in which a pair of ne’er do wells
attempt to wheedle money and accommodation for which they likely don’t
qualify from the department. “I wanted to show the complexities,”
says Wiseman. “The lies, the class closeness between the workers
and the clients, the lack of intelligence which permeates the system,
the places where ethics and tactics coincide, or don’t.
“Ordinary life
is my subject,” he says. “I start with the assumption that
people’s daily life provides as much tragedy, comedy, as great
drama. I think of my films as dramatic movies, not archival
material.”
There is a
pattern in Wiseman’s return to subjects. HIGH SCHOOL (1967) my
favourite of his films, perhaps because it's where I was at that time, deals movingly with social conditioning kids
received in the days of the Vietnam war. The school’s microcosm of
the adult world outside is seen preparing young people for war, jobs,
obedience. The moments when ideals of free speech or human rights
pop up are shattered quickly. It catches the mood of disillusionment
with the American Dream as well as any film I’ve seen, in large
part because it shows the willingness, indeed, the eagerness of the
young to accept that dream as reality. 1994’s HIGH SCHOOL 2 showed
an educational pendulum swung 180 degrees. Wiseman shows us a world
far more sensitive to social diversity, to individual freedom, but at
the same time one which appears to pass on far less actual knowledge.
Wiseman made
PRIMATE (1974) a
bout Atlanta researchers into primate behaviour, and
ZOO (1993) where the ‘inmates’ are contrasted with the visitors.
COMEDIE FRANCAISE could be seen as another view of BALLET (1995)
about the American Ballet Theatre. “It’s not intentional, but
it’s a reasonable retroactive comment,” Wiseman tells me. “For
HIGH SCHOOL 2, for example, I just was interested in seeing what
another kind of high school would be like, a quarter of century
later.”
His latest film,
BELFAST, MAINE is a study of a small working town, which encompasses
many of the institutions that have engaged Wiseman over the years.
Did he see Belfast as somehow old-fashioned, off the mainstream of
America? “No, not at all,” he says. “I know the area well
because I summer near there, it’s where I retreat to do my editing.
There are lots of blue-collar workers, a good deal of rural poverty;
it’s the essence of America.
“The film is
about the nature of daily life and work”, he says, “and the work
is defined by one sequence in a fish cannery, where we took four
hours of rushes and edited it into one nine minute sequence. It’s
got 270 cuts, which might be a record for a documentary.”
Despite the
dramatic nature of the cutting, the rhythm of work on a production
line soon takes hold of the viewer, and the feeling of monotony and
boredom soon follows. “I feel an obligation to present what went
on,” Wiseman says. “Not just cut to the most profound, most
humorous, or even most obtuse sound bite.
“My original view
was that films could change things,” he recollects. “That seems
naïve and pretentious now. It’s rare for any document to be that
powerful.” How about UNCLE TOM’S CABIN, I suggest? “The
exception that proves the rule.”
In the end, the
essence of Wiseman’s America is defined the same way his films are
defined, by the sensibility which knits so many ordinary scenes
together. This is a virtue, and it can be a liability, especially
for those to whom such a sensibility is alien, in the sense of what
makes us human, not what makes us nationals. The French, who despite
inventing chauvinism, appreciate such things; they would call it a
concern for the human condition. For Wiseman, it is American life.
There is no difference.
At Berkeley is shown in competition at the London Film Festival 12 and 14 October